Can 25+ year-old rally cars be street legal in the US???

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02/04/2014 at 20:28 • Filed to: None

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Is it feasible? Because 25+ years = exempt right?

States have noise level limits. May apply to these.

Then there's the whole issue with VINs. Maybe the local DMV can assign one? No clue how that works.


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Kinja'd!!! d00mZ > cuts_off_prius
02/04/2014 at 20:32

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It might be. I wanna comment because BRE Datsuns were being sold. Not only BRE but also race-ready civilian owned 510's and 240z's that were raced back then in AutoX. Still sick though, I too wanna know.


Kinja'd!!! DuckDraper > cuts_off_prius
02/04/2014 at 20:35

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God I just want an s4 0_0 it's my favorite car ever.


Kinja'd!!! MtrRider Just Wants Doritos > cuts_off_prius
02/04/2014 at 20:38

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You will have a hell of a time registering a car with no VIN no matter how old it it. You can register home built cars (AKA kit cars, Caterhams, replicas ect...) with no VIN, but I have no idea how you could do that here. You can't really claim you built it.


Kinja'd!!! Dusty Ventures > cuts_off_prius
02/04/2014 at 20:38

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Yes. I've seen street driven rally Euro-spec Escorts, Audi Quattros, and Peugeots


Kinja'd!!! Straightsix9904 > cuts_off_prius
02/04/2014 at 20:39

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In order to be Street legal it has to have a few things that I know of:

a) windshield wipers, turn signals, I doubt the lights like that would fly, can't be too loud, ETC

B) VIN, this would probably be the trickiest thing. You couldn't get a VIN by calling it a kit car. If it had a vin, (I.e. it was a modified production car) you probably wouldn't have any trouble importing it and driving it as long as it met the basic safety requirements.


Kinja'd!!! jariten1781 > cuts_off_prius
02/04/2014 at 20:43

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Homologation cars would be. Purpose build race cars would not unless you built it.


Kinja'd!!! Jake, Yes, wearing khakis > cuts_off_prius
02/04/2014 at 21:13

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In maryland you don't need emissions nor inspection for cars over 20 if you register as "historic". Could also register as a kit pretty easily....


Kinja'd!!! webmonkees > cuts_off_prius
02/04/2014 at 21:31

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Get a stock vehicle, say, a ratty Quattro, and install rally car. I hear some folks in Europe are wanting to sell their older cars now that the taxes apply to them.


Kinja'd!!! Dusty Ventures > MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
02/04/2014 at 21:48

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Were VINs not a thing back then in Europe? Unless Euro VIN is a relatively new concept I don't see why they shouldn't have a VIN...


Kinja'd!!! deekster_caddy > Straightsix9904
02/04/2014 at 21:53

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The VIN is definitely the tricky part. Was there any racing body that required removal of a VIN if previously equipped? I can see where it would be deemed 'unsafe' to have rally treated cars returned to street legal status. (unseen stress cracks, etc)


Kinja'd!!! MtrRider Just Wants Doritos > Dusty Ventures
02/04/2014 at 22:17

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Do race cars have VINs?

North American VINs are FMVSS standard and Euopean VINs are ISO standard so they are different. I'm just not sure if a rally car would have one.


Kinja'd!!! Dusty Ventures > MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
02/04/2014 at 22:35

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All rally cars start as factory shells, part of why they're all road legal in their home country. Typically they get a VIN put on before being rallified


Kinja'd!!! MtrRider Just Wants Doritos > Dusty Ventures
02/04/2014 at 22:42

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Ok. I knew they had to be road legal, but Europe can also be pretty good about allowing low volume crazy shit to go on the street.

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I still doubt a Group B car would pas smog in California :(


Kinja'd!!! Dusty Ventures > MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
02/04/2014 at 22:44

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Aren't Group B cars smog exempt due to age?


Kinja'd!!! MtrRider Just Wants Doritos > Dusty Ventures
02/04/2014 at 22:47

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To be exempt a car has to have been built before 1975. Group B started in 1982. California is a massive asshole of a state.


Kinja'd!!! Dusty Ventures > MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
02/04/2014 at 22:50

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Gotcha. I'm used to Mass rules, only checked if less than 15 years old.


Kinja'd!!! Rainbow > cuts_off_prius
02/05/2014 at 02:19

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Buy the stock version of the same car. Remove the VIN plate. Install it in the same place on the rally car. Now say you have just replaced every single piece of the stock car.


Kinja'd!!! lonestranger > cuts_off_prius
02/05/2014 at 03:28

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No-one has mentioned the fact that rally cars generally are already road legal, at least somewhat. Check out any WRC or Group B car. I'm no expert, but I know that they often need to drive on public roads and therefore need licence plates. Instead of standard plates they're often tiny decals on the bumper or even atop the hood, but they're there. Of course, not all races and rallys in all locations require them, though, so a car built specifically for something like Pikes Peak won't have plates.

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